18Chesapeake - 18xx simplificat

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18Chesapeake - 18xx simplificat

Post: # 97758Post unq_flipmo
16 Apr 2019, 01:37

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Daca ti-ai dorit sa te apuci sau sa incerci macar 18xx este foarte posibil ca acesta sa fie un excelent punct de plecare.

Excellent introductory 18xx game and tool for teaching new players to 18xx

Simple core 18xx rules
2-6 players (yes, 2-player 18xx!)
Quick play time (2.5-3.5 hours, a “weeknight” game)
Eurogame-style components with clear, easy to understand graphic design


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Se pare ca va o fi o luna/un an bun pentru iubitorii de 18xx. 1824 (2nd ed.) f. curand, 1961 + 1967 in vara. Toate pe KS. Plus 1883 deja lansat si 1862: Railway Mania in the Eastern Counties (de la GMT) spre sfarsitul anului, ambele non KS.

18Chesapeake e produs de All-Aboard Games, o firma americana ce lucreaza pe sistemul print-on-demand. Pe site-ul acestora am balosit multa vreme. Apoi am zis ca ma voi intoarce (,) candva, la vremea respectiva raportul pret/cunostinte 18xx/persoane cu care as putea incerca sa joc macar imi dadea erori peste erori. Toate variabilele au ramas identice insa pasiunea mea pentru jocuri a crescut si mai mult si in continuare consider ca apogeul placerii de a juca (si colectiona) il voi atinge cu aceasta categorie de jocuri, 18xx.

Dar sa revenim la vagoanele noastre.

Daca regatul se va baga cu atat mai bine. Il voi intreba pe alex cat de curand. Daca nu sper ca ne vom strange 6. Estimez ca va fi greu insa am zis ca merita incercat. Ce se stie momentan e ca:

- pretul pentru o copie e 70$ si transportul 25;
- pretul pentru 3 copii e 195$ (65x3) si transportul 60 (20x3);
- pretul pentru 6 copii e 360$ (60x6) si transportul 90 (15x6);

- dupa acest proiect vor scoate imediat Rolling Stock Stars tot pe KS si se presupune ca se vor putea combina ambele jocuri intr-un singur shipping (ma refer inclusiv la pret, citit dar nu din sursa autorizata) sau va fi oferit jocul la pret redus in pm-ul 18Chesapeake (sursa autorizata, cea mai); acesta-i jocul si acestea-s schimbarile fata de prima versiune;
- nu sunt planuri pt. retail iar daca va aparea in retail tot cel de pe KS va fi cel mai bun pret;
- cutia nu va arata asa ci "it will be a full wrap/art box";
- "the final game will have 1.5-2.0 mm cardboard components";
- "There is a possibility of adding wood as stretch goals and I am having that priced out currently".

Pretul (ideal, daca suntem 6) de 75$ la usa mi se pare (ca sa nu folosesc cuvinte mari) extrem de bun. Succesul acestui proiect cred ca va avea efect de bulgare si alte jocuri ale lor vor deveni accesibile la preturi competitive (daca se arunca un ochi pe site-ul lor cel mai adesea pretul unei copii (print-on-demand, repet) este de 125, 150 si tot asa. La asta adaugi si shipping din State.


In incheiere cateva cuvinte care mi-au placut foarte mult din partea lui Scott: 18xx is so much fun, but the core 18xx audience is often so experienced and looking for the next cool/complex mechanism that we don't often get a chance to help new players get a leg up. 18Chesapeake will help you get the basics down first

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16 Apr 2019, 09:40

Ce frumos l-ai prezentat. Sign me up.
Scott mi-a zis ca daca asta merge bine se gandeste si la altele cum ar fi 1822 si chiar 1822MX pe care l-am testat in Ianuarie la Chattanooga si care mi-a placut mult de tot.

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16 Apr 2019, 10:36

Și eu sunt interesat
Modern Romanian Art
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But what if they are creating the disaster within themselves?
Things are OK now but I never know when it's going to change.

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16 Apr 2019, 10:54

Deci pot sa te trec pe lista, da? We're halfway there..

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17 Apr 2019, 17:07

Eu nu, din pacate.
Pentru board games sunt fidel cum era Castro pentru Cuba...

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17 Apr 2019, 22:22

L-am intrebat pe Alex, o sa revin cu raspuns in ziua in care aflu
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22 Apr 2019, 21:39

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22 Apr 2019, 22:36

L-am jucat. Un pic mai spre intermediar dar e bun. Numa de n-ar scrie Petroșeni în loc de Petroșani ... Avem oricum Cluj, Sibiu și Brașov pe harta 18xx. Asta până apare 18RO 😎.
Eu ma bag. Care mai dorește, care mai poftește...

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Post: # 98301Post unq_flipmo
23 Apr 2019, 00:51

Da doar ca as vrea sa vb. cu el sa ni le pastreze pana la Essen (cand le vom si ridica, Alex adica o sa le ridice sau cineva de acolo dar de venit prin Alex ar fi ideal). Deci si plata si ridicare la Essen pt. 2, 4 bucati, cati o sa fim. Asa am facut si pt. 18CZ si a fost ideal pt. mine. Deci daca poti sa vb. tu bine, daca nu vb eu, sa-mi zici doar daca esti +1 sau nu
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23 Apr 2019, 11:04

Essen e o optiune in campanie. Zero shipping. ok cu +1.

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23 Apr 2019, 11:45

Ok, o sa-i dau un mail diseara. Stiu ca e optiune dar banii tot trebuiesc platiti relativ curand. Cum am multe cheltuieli in perioada asta, well, din cauza asta ziceam ca ma aranjeaza sa scot banii din buzunar atunci si nu acum
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