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Gear & Piston

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 08:13
by arthuriovan
Un nou proiect interesant a aparut pe Kickstarter:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lud ... f=category

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/ ... ear-piston

from http://www.boardgamegeek.com/image/1615912


Jocul este o combinatie interesanta de worker placement cu elemente de card drafting, set collection, tile placement si hand management. A primit deja un review bun de la UndeadViking, iar regulile sunt postate pe pagina de Kickstarter. Mai mult, jocul se poate juca pe boardgamesarena.com. Aparent in dezvoltarea lui Gear & Piston (sau cel putin a campaniei de pe Kickstarter) s-au implicat si Konstantinos Kokkinis (Drum Roll) plus Ignacy Trzewiczek.

Pretul unui exemplar ar fi in jur de 90 lei (daca ne strangem 6 persoane - pledge de 154 $) sau in jur de 93 lei (daca ne strangem 3 - pledge de 79 $). Preturile includ si shipping (cei care au initiat proiectul ofera free shipping pentru EU, fiind finlandezi). So, anyone tempted?

Re: Gear & Piston

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 08:43
by AngelEye
Ma uitasem si eu la el si este foarte interesant, poti conta pe mine.

Re: Gear & Piston

Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 10:59
by Shaikan
Posibil sa ma bag si eu :).......ma informez mai mult....sau poate incerc sa-l testez....confirm pe urma :D

Re: Gear & Piston

Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 14:18
by tudro
Daca vreti sa incercati varianta online: http://ro.boardgamearena.com/#!gamepane ... earnpiston

Re: Gear & Piston

Posted: 02 May 2013, 13:23
by unbuburuz
Salut,

Ma bag si eu, e interesant joculetul.

Re: Gear & Piston

Posted: 02 May 2013, 15:11
by arthuriovan
Ok, now we're talking - pai suntem deja 3 - eu, AngelEye si unbuburuz, asa ca am sa fac un pledge pentru 3 exemplare ;). Sa speram ca ajunge cel putin la 27 k!

Re: Gear & Piston

Posted: 11 May 2013, 07:40
by arthuriovan
Suntem din nou doar 2 - Angeleye s-a retras. In cazul in care nu se mai arata o persoana interesata de joc in urmatoarea saptamana, voi renunta la pledge.
Jocul este interesant, cred ca isi va atinge toate stretch-goals si costa doar 90 de lei (aprox.) la cursul actual. So nobody interested?

Re: Gear & Piston

Posted: 11 May 2013, 10:16
by LexHobbyStore
Daca sunteti interesati de acest joc va rog PM me pana pe 16 mai si vom face noi pledge.

Pretul care va fi la vanzare in magazine va fi de ~170 lei.

Pret pe copie pentru kickstarter cu plata catre Lex cand apare jocul (~decembrie): 130 lei

Re: Gear & Piston

Posted: 11 May 2013, 11:01
by Miţã
2 intrebari am :

Arthur toate copiile vin cu strech goals? Sau doar 1
Alex(lex) stiu ca plata la voi se face la livrare dar de la 90 de lei la 130 vorbim de un adaos de 35% sincer individual daca se face pledge si nu te ajunge mai mult de 110 lei. Si atunci care e avantajul meu ca iau prin tine?

Re: Gear & Piston

Posted: 11 May 2013, 11:10
by LexHobbyStore
De 45%:)).

Avantaje: Nu blochezi banii 5 luni de zile. Noi ca si firma, platim TVA (24%, un detaliu pe care unii il omit:) ). Tot ce vom face pe kickstarter vom face pe firma nu pe persoana fizica, caz in care nu s-ar achita TVA.

Dupa ce am scris mai sus daca faci un calcul vezi ca la pledge-ul de 184 dolari pentru 6 bucati, la care adaugi TVA, nu ramanem cu nimic.

Re: Gear & Piston

Posted: 11 May 2013, 11:16
by Miţã
And yes, am uitat de tva. Atunci imi cer scuze dar tot diferenta e mare :)

Re: Gear & Piston

Posted: 11 May 2013, 12:52
by arthuriovan
Sal Mita. Da toate cele 3 exemplare includ stretch-goals si pretul e f. ok. Cel mai ieftin ar iesi 6 ex. cu pick-up de la Essen - dar nu cred ca ne strangem 6 si in plus trebuie sa le ridice cineva de acolo. Anyways sa imi spui daca vrei sa te inscrii la cel de-al treilea exemplar.

Re: Gear & Piston

Posted: 11 May 2013, 12:57
by deeug
@arthur
sunt eu interesat dar mai am nevoie de un pic de timp sa-l mai studiez nitzel. Pana luni (cel tarziu) zic sigur daca ma bag sau nu

Re: Gear & Piston

Posted: 12 May 2013, 22:34
by deeug
Pana la urma nu ma bag...Am studiat un pic, printre picaturi si jocul e suficient de interesant incat sa vreau sa-l joc, dar nu m-a convins suficient sa vreau sa-l cumpar...E foarte posibil sa-mi para rau dupa ce-l joc si sa regret pana la adanci batraneti, dar, daca o sa fie asa, gasesc eu o modalitate sa pun mana pe el :D

Re: Gear & Piston

Posted: 13 May 2013, 00:16
by Mono
joaca pe BGA, eu l-am incercat.

Re: Gear & Piston

Posted: 13 May 2013, 07:27
by deeug
Cea mai buna alegere! Asa o sa fac! :)

Re: Gear & Piston

Posted: 13 May 2013, 09:36
by arthuriovan
@ deeug - daca te hotarasti ca il vrei totusi, sa imi dai de stire te rog. Mai sunt 7 zile ramase si sper ca jocul sa treaca si de ultimul stretch goal de 27 k.

Re: Gear & Piston

Posted: 21 May 2013, 21:06
by arthuriovan
Gear & Piston a strans peste 32 k si a atins toate stretch-goals. Pana la urma ne-am strans 3 oameni (mersi Tudor si Andrei), asa ca inainte de Craciun o sa ne bucuram de joc ;) !

Re: Gear & Piston

Posted: 17 Jun 2013, 13:52
by arthuriovan
Un ultim update - aparent totul e ok si se va respecta deadline-ul stabilit initial. Deocamdata nu am receptionat survey-ul pentru comunicarea datelor referitoare la shipping, dar sper sa se intample curand. Nu am postat update-urile anterioare fiindca se refereau la alte campanii Kickstarter (aveau un continut mai degraba publicitar decat unul informativ).
Hi folks,

we have now received the funds, and in order to expedite the backer survey, we have hired some outside help. We would like to leave nothing to luck, and so we are conducting "dummy" surveys now in order to test the system.

The reason for this is that we would like to integrate the survey with our upcoming website, and allow you to have a profile that you can use to manage your shipping address, and get more extras if you like.

For the curious, the final amount we received is $ 29190.91 - the first time we have seen 5 digits (well, 5+2) in a bank account.

In the meantime, we are waiting for the final production samples for the steel gears from the metalworking facility, and we will post pictures when we receive them.

The game's manufacturing schedule has been worked out, the quote is now finalized, and the factory is just going to be waiting for the final art files. We are on time, and we are considering printing earlier than expected, to again leave nothing to luck. It might cost us a little more in storage, but will give us a lot of peace of mind.

Finally, we have arranged for a storage facility in Essen, so we expect to have the games arrive there before we even do. It's better for the games to wait for us, rather than that we wait for the games.

All this extra storage does mean extra costs, but the shipping costs from the factory to Essen turned out to be less than what we expected, and so we will use those savings to buy extra peace of mind. Even though we are producing the games in Europe, and do not have to wait for any containers from China, we want to make sure that everything is waiting for us in Essen when we get there.

Speaking of Essen, if any German-speaking Pistonheads have some time to volunteer at our booth, especially on the Saturday of the fair, we would love the help, and could work out a few freebies (beer? t-shirts? games? Nutella waffles?) for those that put in some hours. Jukka has booked his flights, and will be with us at the booth throughout the fair.

So thanks for being patient. Feel free to message us with any questions (we have kept to a 12-hour maximum response time), and we will be happy to answer them.

That's basically it for now, so sit tight, it's coming. We are also quite eager to open our first box of Gear & Piston, and to start delivering all those extras as well.

Some of you may know of our other venture, http://boardgametravel.com - as all of you get a 10% discount to our trips as part of the Gear & Piston basic backer reward. We previously posted about another Kickstarter campaign that Richard "Rahdo" Ham started, but sadly Kickstarter suspended it. KS realized their mistake and admitted it to Richard, but it was too late to reinstate it.

Well, it seems that he just won't give up: http://igg.me/at/rahdoCardboardSun/.

Talk to you soon!

Re: Gear & Piston

Posted: 26 Jun 2013, 14:09
by arthuriovan
Am completat backer survey, asa ca jocul este pe calea cea buna. Ultimul update:
Yes! Finally! The survey is out. By this time or sometime soon, you will be receiving an email from our survey provider, PollDaddy.

It was sent to the email address you provided through Kickstarter. If you've missed it, it is stuck in your junk mail, or you don't feel like checking your inbox, here is a link to it:

http://tringua.polldaddy.com/s/gear-pis ... ker-survey

The reasons why we are using that website rather Kickstarter's native interface are many, yet not so obvious to someone not familiar with the campaign process.

Even though we were also not familiar with it, it took a short time to realize that KS does not do surveys well. It took longer to find a way to do it right. We asked for help, talking to Jamey Stegmaier of the hugely successful Euphoria campaign, and looking at a number of plugins, websites and applications.

In the end, because we had so many pledge levels (a mistake), it was very clear that we would have to recreate dozens of questions and multiple choice options for each of the 16 levels, resulting in even further delays. So, we decide to use a purpose-built solution.

As we get responses, we will be able to immediately fulfill the Spielbox extra, and as soon as we have a good batch of data, we will import it to our internal order management system at http://ludicreations.com

Following that, you will be able to keep your address information updated, and we will have an easier time printing shipping labels when the time comes.

The survey also contains some questions about how and why you supported Gear & Piston. They are not obligatory, but we would love to know why you did what you did, and got us into all this fine damn mess!

In all seriousness, if you have any questions, please feel free to message us here, or post a comment to this update. Yes, some of them will have been answered before in the general comments, other update comments or even in the campaign page FAQ, but feel free to ask, it's our job to answer.

Here's the link to the survey again:

http://tringua.polldaddy.com/s/gear-pis ... ker-survey

Thank you once more for your patience!

LudiCreations